"And I think to a lot of people, it feels like this is a big messy gray world and at least there are some sharp distinctions. Like the distinctions between genders, and sexual orientation, and those are just lines that shouldn’t-- those should always be hard lines. But saying that that simplicity is natural is idiotic because the most natural thing in the world is complexity. And gender and sexual orientation are proven over and over again to not be firm lines. The whole world is gray, and if you just appreciate that-- if you understand it and appreciate it, then it’s beautiful."